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Maid terminated contract without any penalty
1 Apr 2016
I do my best to be a nice, not naggy employer and carry out my obligations as per the terms and conditions set out by Ministry of Manpower (MOM)/standard FDW contract. Any extra perks/special benefit, it is up to me or FDW to earn it... eg special 17% salary adjustment for J, my 3rd FDW when she completed one year with me. I am definitely not the most desirable employer because I cannot allow my FDW to hold her mobile on a 24/7 basis .... to use whenever she pleases or allowed to stay out (purposely bend the Spore law eg some expats), etc.
Some people flunk the Spore law using the excuse of human rights or be generous, be compassionate, treat FDW like human, Spore is behaving like a backward 3rd world slavery country, etc nonsense. This is Spore, we have our way of living, our culture, taxation and salary scale. Singapore ranks high on its national social policies, leading Asia and notably on key measures of education, healthcare, life expectancy, quality of life, personal safety, housing, '$fine policies, etc. It is noted for its effective, pragmatic and incorrupt governance and civil service, together with its rapid development policies. As a foreigner, it is not right to slam or force a country to become what you prefer. If you think your country or another country is governed better, why are you still here earning S$??
Posted in this pg by: Anonymous, 01 April, 2016
You deserve to be treated like a human being, so does your FTW, just because they ARE human too and NOT slaves. How would you feel if your employer forbid you from taking compassionate leave when there is a death in your family?
You should treat you employee (FDW) the same way you would like to be treated as an employee in your day job.
It does not matter what how others treat their employees or how other FTW are treated and how your previous FDW were treated.
How well/badly you treat your FDW reflects a lot about yourself. The same values you want to teach your children. The choice to be kind and compassionate is yours.
Posting here and pretend to be a saint made you feel good?
Aren't you ashamed to step on somebody who didn't do anything wrong as per Spore law?
Slaves have no human rights, FDWs have rights, demanding and get lots of privileges! Things that didn't go well or not in FDWs' favour, they and the activists have the cheek to push the fault onto employers, you people really deserved to be whacked... so sickening and evil!
"You deserve to be treated like a human being, so does your FTW, just because they ARE human too and NOT slaves. How would you feel if your employer forbid you from taking compassionate leave when there is a death in your family?
>> Maid want to take Leave, not entitled to compassionate leave, SHE MUST PAY everything! J spent about $300 on budget air ticket, 2 weeks unpaid leave $200 and OEC $340 (not part of home leave benefit) = more than S$800. J would get home leave reimbursement if she renewed 2-year contract but not given a fully paid advance home leave. Which employee in Spore gets such juicy compassionate benefit? You?? This is a lot of money to me so if maid doesn't come back from home leave, who's going to refund me the full costs and inconveniences incurred? Any insurance to buy? You expect me to absorb the cost, treat FDW well but ill-treat myself? I am not selfish or unkind, this is my only way to protect myself. FDWs have activists, HOME and MOM to back them, I don't have! Persons who preach blindly are selfish and inconsiderate! We are employers, human just like any maid, not ATM machines.
Stop advocating something that is absurd and unfair! Employers don't deserve such harsh treatment or must act like ATM machines. Most of us are employers who don't own any company, merely a household with working couple, children and/or elderly. Most of us are salaried employee living in HDB flats. Employing a FDW is NOT a form of luxury, it is a necessity so that we can work full time to sustain life in expensive Spore! Spore is not a western country so don't use your outdated/inappropriate ruler to measure.
It is up to FDW's employer to squeeze the time for maid's absence. Not all employers are home makers, they have a job at risk when they take unplanned long leave. Keeping a job and keeping a maid who may have lied somebody close died (getting very common for liars to prey on kind hearted employer) ... which is more important? Most FDWs don't fly home for only 3-5 days. Disappearing for 15 days is a lot compared to local employee only away for about 3 days depending on company's compassionate entitlement. If you're an normal employee, I am sure you know this. If so, why are you posting here to purposely make life difficult for me? Do you have to be so protective and make me look hideous?
You should treat you employee (FDW) the same way you would like to be treated as an employee in your day job. "
>> when was my FDW not treated like human? She is obviously an employee based on her FDW standard contract. Whatever she's entitled to, stated in the contract, she gets it automatically. Show your true identity, I don't mind go to the police station and report you for false accusation! Don't post here just to hurt people.
My maids get paid timely and received all the benefits imposed by MOM and source countries (MOM is pro-maid). No matter you're a maid or local employee, your duty is to carry out your job scope AS PER YOUR employment contract. Don't play tricks and accuse others for forcing you to take up a job that is inhuman.
Maids are working adults who are suppose to take full responsibilities for their actions.
Not being able to use mobile phone on 24/7 basis is not a crime! This forms part of a company's policy. You don't agree, leave! Do you tell your company to tweak it's policy to suit you? A person with such mentality shouldn't be given a job. Any company that employs you have to be careful.
Reached a wrong decision, did something not in your favour, have the guts to swallow it and not shamelessly push to your employer or cook up pathetic stories (lies) as if you were ill-treated or prevented to get out for greener pasture. I can't tie FDW to a job that you dread. I have a special needs girl in FDW's care so I cannot afford to have a maid with grievances. Unhappy? I don't mind release an unhappy maid. I don't want a time bomb! I have told my current maid, if she felt she needed a better environment, give me enough time to find a replacement. I don't own JA or any FDW. Don't cling to me and then expect me to accommodate, make her life rosy at my inconvenience/extra expenses.
FDWs, slap yourselves or chop your feet for stepping into your source country recruiter's office, stop blaming employers for your own decision! Behave like a grown up! Be responsible. If you need a higher salary and you deserve it, negotiate with your employer or get a transfer if employer felt you're not worth it/can't afford you. Don't whine or inject poison needles.
How can some people expect to be pampered with the excuse "same values you want to teach your children. The choice to be kind and compassionate is yours"
YOU want extra perks, EARN IT! Otherwise, be contented with the terms outlined by MOM. Teach kids we owe maid a good life and take things for granted 不劳而获? This is not how compassion should be used .... are you mentally ill? You don't have eyes to read this blog doesn't welcome wolf-skin/self righteous freak like you?
Do you teach your children to lie, hurt and frame others to achieve goals? What kind of parent are you? You can't differentiate what is wrong and started firing missiles at me! I look down on you! You better not have any kid because your children will be brought up the wrong way. Preach what is right, open your eyes to see the truth, shouldn't educate children or people to feel sorry for the FDWs BLINDLY. They are after all humans just like you and I.... bad ones and good ones, have brains to think what is better for them.
My 3rd FDW told me her hubby passed away, went home for about 2 weeks and promised she would continue to work for me after returning .... she came back as a changed person, back-stabbed and left me. Can I say J was unappreciative? She didn't look cunning and scheming to you? Being a FDW is a licence 免死金牌 to lie, play victim/sufferer or disown your unscrupulous doings?
J repaid me by writing to MOM with false accusations. As a law abiding citizen, I stood firm and printed all the proof on her last day to match each of her false accusation. I didn't blacklist/stop J from getting a transfer with the evidences. Am I not kind and forgiving? To me, she's just a FDW who is trying to earn more in the wrong way. I was frustrated and angry with J. I like her abilities to adapt, the way she took care of my girl and her cooking skill but all these can't make me forget she has abandoned me +shot me from my back.... a traitor/liar cannot be given a chance a stay.
Anyway, it was J choice to go home and pay everything from her own pocket, I don't owe J any benefit. If you feel you've money nowhere to spend, donate to charity instead of pretending you've compassion in my blog. It was not my obligation to pay for J two weeks' absence, Phil home leave application (OEC) and air ticket. FDW must complete 2-year contract with same employer to earn a paid home leave. J was aware if she completed 2-year and renew contract, those spending (except OEC costs) would be reimbursed as home leave entitlement. Her embassy didn't allow her to walk in apply home leave and pushed J to pay a maid agency to do her home leave application, what does this show? Own countrymen not sympathetic that her hubby passed away? Agency and Embassy in cahoot to milk the FDWs? Walk into Embassy and get OEC via a maid agency is more than 50% difference. Read: Filipino maid's Home Leave (OEC)
J went home while I took two weeks leave to take care of my special needs girl. I didn't load her with extra work or gave her a hard time when she came back. J knew I do not give loan since Day one, this was part of my house rules that she has read BEFORE I recruited her. Read: Should you give loan to your domestic maid? J came back and soon my girl ended up admitted to KK Hospital due to food poisoning. Seriously, what have I done wrong? Was J careless or taking revenge because I didn't agree to be her ATM machine? I didn't pretend rich, foot the costs and trust her to come back? How come nobody/activist show some understanding, be considerate to the plight of employers that those hundreds are not small money to lose if FDW disappear/runaway?
Open your eyes to read what I've posted below (year 2012) ... J was free to find a better employer via maid agency to supply a sum for her hubby but she chose to get a loan from me at no interest. Her advance home leave wasn't turned down. I have all options typed out, J signed, thus, I am not afraid to reason out with any sickening activist/self righteous freak, such as you. I am still keeping the sad evidence, evidence of stupid me... just in case any mad dog leaps on me. I have the impression, some people just find me an eye sore (as FDW's employer) and will do nasty thing to make my life miserable. Seems like getting me upset is a form of accomplishment to them!
Being nice (special salary increment after working for one year only) didn't mean J would feel grateful... J proved it, totally destroyed her good record. She forgot and bitten me cruelly, used me and tried to get me into trouble with MOM.
To FDWs' employer, learn from my mistake. Typing is clear but getting maid to write down what you said and her level of understanding is better. I don't know is it maid chose to listen to what they are keen, very selective on info or they just hear beginning and ending info. Till date (3 years with me), I still have problem making my current filipino FDW understand what I said. JA can develop something totally different from what I meant. When I asked her to repeat, she was reluctant. I need to press on and get JA to show me her real level of understanding (comprehension), otherwise, she'll be lazy or go ahead to do something wrong. When something wrong is done, she felt it wasn't her problem or fault. Scolding her for something she didn't feel she is in the wrong .... how would she feel? Not directing FDW well, point out her mistake on time will make her err further. You are angry, she's also angry, thinking you're demanding and unreasonable! FDW can be really wilful... beyond reasoning, unable to accept that the fault lies on her... egoistic. Thus, FDWs are superior class humans because slaves can't have ego, maids can! Being a nice employer is good but there are times you maybe unappreciated and get shot for doing nothing wrong, something FDW misunderstood.
Some people have weird mindset thinking FDW's employers earn a lot and must share with the FDWs... be generous to her like how you treat yourself! Earn it, don't take for granted that these perks are given to FDWs automatically. Claiming your employer didn't try to understand you, is unkind or not generous to you is morally and ethically wrong. You forgot you DON'T DESERVE IT! In Spore, FDWs' employer are unprotected but you are! Activists/non employers don't care how much we have to bear or lose by employing FDWs. They have golden hearts for FDWs (sided them blindly) but are very unsympathetic, harsh and inconsiderate to full-time salaried FDWs' employer. Just because they are maids, your heart went soft for them. If they did something bad or lied, you felt employers forced them to become bad or revengeful, am I right?
My 3rd FDW was also a filipino. I prefer filipino because we can communicate in English. J was 36 years old with a 15 years old son. My preferred FDW age range is 30-35 years old. Having this age seemed like the FDW will be more matured .... well, not really, depends on her exposure. Although almost same age, J is definitely more matured than JA. Probably because she has worked in Manila and Hong Kong.
J was a very good story teller and an excellent actress. She was able to make many people, including hubby believe and stand by her! Her job performance was even eyed by my sister .... tried to headhunt her!
Employing J was something I thought was a good decision. She was chosen by me, not seen by hubby. That day she came to my house for home interview, my girl did her 'business' in bed. I almost fainted because that was really something unusal. I thought J would turn down the job but she accepted. She certainly appeared as a perfect helper, willing to take care of my special needs girl and accept my child the way she is.
J could cook according to how I wanted and soon, I don't have to supervise her. When I pointed out her mistakes, she may looked unhappy but she still said yes mam. J did her best not to repeat because I asked J to write down what she has forgotten, her mistakes. She has to remember because I don't need to keep reminding her and making myself angry.
Sept 2012, J's husband passed away. I told her I'll reimburse her 2 weeks' home leave and return air ticket once she has completed two years with me, which at that time was 3 months later. J has to bear her own home leave processing fee because she hasn't completed 2-year. That was her Philippines embassy's way of earning money from FDWs. Philippines embassy is very strict and make all FDWs who haven't completed 2-year contract to go through maid agencies in order to process recognised OEC home leave application. It is an additional cost to the FDW who just wanted to fly home to reunite with family. Embassy doesn't allow FDW to apply herself if failed to complete 2-year contract. Read
I suggested to J to negotiate, speak to her embassy that her husband really passed away. She was turned away by the embassy security. Her own country people unkind to her, doesn't allow flexibility , why should I, an employer not related to her by blood or nationality be so generous and kind? Employers do not own charity organisation. It doesn't pay to be too kind. Employers who had been cheated will know.
Read: “S’pore ranks low in charitable giving”
I understand many FDWs claimed husbands or relatives passed away, sick or met with accidents to get free tickets home and then failed to return to Spore. J confirmed this because she has a friend who used the same tactic. Said she doesn't understand why some people could curse their own family members. (J could have lied to me but I saw forum discussions, such liars do exist) Those employers were very kind, not only did they pay their FDWs' air-tickets, they gave good-will money (not loan). They were cheated but did MOM help them for being too kind? No.
I can't afford to be cheated because I am not a rich person. I merely gave J additional off day. By being too kind to FDW, who is going to be kind to me if I'm cheated? Who will go Philippines to get back the money cheated? There's no organisation in Spore to protect employers. I learnt I'll just give what MOM and embassies enforced, the basic will do. FDW is not my family member, she is definitely not a slave but an employee that I entrusted my girl. FDW has to earn her rewards and trust. As a form of reward, I gave J time-off or extra paid day off.
J returned about 2 weeks later. Claimed she can't cut hair when family member passed away but she was able to rebond her hair. Due to her precious hair, she purposely tied her hairs losely, causing them to drop from the sides. I don't want FDW swinging, touching her hair and do cooking, yucks! Nor do I want FDW to stay in the toilet for ages to polish her hair. Note: All my FDWs' hairs are longer than mine.
J is a changed person, she forgot my house rules - cleanliness and food hygiene! She was told cooked and raw food shouldn't be mixed yet she did. J caused my girl to be hospitalized in KK Hospital! My girl vomitted everything that was fed through her mouth, had fever and developed seizures. Hubby and I weren't home for dinner so by right we're safe. I cleaned my girl (whatever she vomitted) and just rinsed by hands without using soap. I ended up as a victim too! My poor girl couldn't rest well in KK because mummy kept waking to dash to toilet .... more than 15 times. I hugged my girl in the bed while she had her drips... a torture for us to stay in KK Hospital. Nurse said unable to prescribe medicine to me and didn't tell me I could buy medicine at Level 1, 24-hr convenience store.
J asked for loan of 30,000 peso. Said she has to bear the full costs of her husband's funeral. She has no money although she has worked many years. She has an aunt working in Spore NOT as maid but didnt approach her. I gave her below options. Guessed she was angry I didn't offer her compassionate leave and free money, thus, deliberately caused by girl to have food contamination.
J worked in Manila and Hong Kong before coming to Spore. Hong Kong ... a dream land for FDWs yet J left!! Spore is such a great haven for FDWs. No matter how rotten a FDW is, she still has chance to be recycled and be employed in Spore (employers are being blackmailed, too frighten to tell the truth in order to save the maid loan and repatriation costs)! So many organisations and ministers eagar to help and give FDWs the best working environment in this little red dot, at the expense of the employers. They just need to do the talking and policy implementation, we suffer. Employers bear all the costs and inconveniences.
I gave J three options:
- renewal of contract for at least one year, I'll give her loan at no interest. It was only 3 months before J completed 2-year with me.
- go to a maid agency, find a new employer to finance her. The interest agency charged as middleman is high.
- borrow money from her loanshark friends (they charge at least 20% interest).
I typed out the choices (to avoid misunderstanding), including reimbusement of home leave entitlement, special bonus and told her the choice is hers. Reminded and highlighted on paper, I do not want to force J to stay if she felt terms are unfavourable. Thought she'll take the opportunity to leave but J chose to stay, claimed happy to work for me, didn't want to venture outside and most important, she liked my girl. J chose to stay so I lent her the requested money without interest. Look at her letter to MOM, totally different story, lots of lies.
By chance, I discovered J complained to Ministry of Manpower. If I didn't stumble on her misdeeds, I could have foolishly be deceived and believed J was my best helper. I must thank my lady luck or bad luck because I ended up with M? Or the FDW market is mainly filled with bad maids so I should console myself I'm not in extreme bad state?
Till now, I still don't understand why J had to lie. She was free to go, I'm not interested to tie her, I meant what I said and what I printed on the paper (she signed on it). J is not afraid of retribution will befall her only son?
These were J's complaints (unhappiness):
* J wanted to find better employment, higher salary (current rate is S$550 with weekly off days) to pay for her son's university fee but accused me for forcing her to renew contract. My offer is not that attractive. But comparing her filipino friends who loyally worked 4 to 8 years in Spore, same employer, my offer is higher. Was surprised filipino are paid only $400/month. Saw on forum discussions, there are really employers who were fortunate to have FDWs working 2 or more years with them, at $400/month, one off day each month.
* CCTV - J doesn't like. If a person has nothing to hide, why afraid of CCTV? Hubby was willing to remove all the cameras (not hidden, very obvious to eyes) in order to keep her and doesn't mind exposing my girl to risk and abuse. He trusted J a lot!
* an own room so that J can rest undisturbed. My house has no spare room. J shared the room with my girl, at the same time help to monitor her. The only private and undisturbed corner I could offer when she was ill was the courtyard. She felt that was a bad arrangement. Comparing her former Hong Kong employer, made her shared a room with 7 cats, I believe I'm not that horrible. She could have lied about her employment in HK, based on how she backstabbed me.
* medical benefits - fdw not entitled to but she felt she deserved it. Example when J has headaches, she expected employer to bring her to see doctor. Buying panadol from pharmacy or taking available home medicine, such as paracetamol from polyclinic was unacceptable.
* I didn't give advance home leave, pay for air ticket and agency's home leave processing fee. J felt I've cheated and very unkind to her. She felt I was bad for not to offering to foot the costs based on compassion.
* employer didn't bring her for vacation (this was thru my conversation with J, not a complain to MOM). My family and I haven't gone for any holidays for many years. We are not rich people. Every cents matter to us, we need reserve funds, can't simply cast our hard earned money away. My own teeth is still waiting to be treated but I'm trying to delay paying the expensive expenses.
Hubby didn't believe J would lie and be so nasty to me. I showed proof so he reluntantly let J find her own agency to transfer out.
My new FDW arrived but J hasn't confirmed a new employer. She yearned to work for expatriates, hoping to catch a better fish so that she can boast to her friends. I kept her with my new FDW. I knew J will sow discord, continue spread untruth info to ruin my relationship with new FDW but I know I can't prevent it. J has already spreaded to the neighbourhood and school so it all depends on the new FDW's maturity, how sensible and observant. I can't stop others to brain washed new FDW. The only way to end and save my reputation is to move house and change school .... but worth it? My new FDW can still go astray if she's in wrong company. School is a gossip place that I definitely cant avoid.
I admit I talked loudly and by raising my voice, most modern FDWs won't like it. They are not slaves so don't understand who gave me the right to scold them. Even if they were in the wrong, I cannot make them unhappy. Their mindset seemed like I have to be a person with high EQ, no matter how angry or frustrated I was. I have to be soft-spoken, sweet and super nice at all times. Sometimes, I'm really afraid FDW will vent angry on my poor girl. I did control myself but FDW seemed enjoyed see me jumping mad.
I really did try to control my temper but I'm no saint! I'm a human too, I've feelings, not just an ATM machine for FDW to cash out money!
By the way, J has off days. I let J take off from 7.30am to 8pm. Some employers don't give such long rest. Some fdws have lots of must-do chores before they could run out. Some employers ring to track the whereabouts of their FDWs but I don't.
Next year, with mandatory off days, don't know what chaos will happen. FDWs have nothing to lose. If pregnant, they get free ticket home. MOM is really too kind to FDWs! I don't mind giving weekly off days if there's no:
- security bond implication
- repatriation cost
- maid loan to bear
- insurance and levy
Insurance should be purchased by FDW, showing her name, not employer's. It should be tagged to FDW no matter which employer or how many employers she has worked for in Spore.
Told J on her last day, don't keep in contact with me or hubby. What she did was bad so I don't want to see or hear from her again. Somebody commented: "Not all maids tell lies. And lying is not always seen as a bad thing where they come from. It is a way to avoid unpleasantness, a way to avoid confrontation or embarassment. In their environment they know when someone is lying to them but they are prepared to let it go to avoid an ugly confrontation or embarassment."
J found her own agency in Orchard and arranged for her agent to come to my office area to pay me back the S$900 loan with no interest, as well as sign transfer form. I told the agent, I wasn't interested to waste my time make a trip to the agency. They want to market J, earn commission, they have to come over to meet me. Why should I be so nice to go the extra miles for a maid who has betrayed me?
J's motives not deceitful? No company will forcefully tie an employee who wants to leave for greener pastures. Same applies to me. I have my girl who might suffer in the hands of an unhappy FDW. Why should I open myself and my girl to risks or have a time bomb living with us? FDW can leave my house for better offers but don't tell lies and try to get me into hot soup.
As an employee, I do participate in gravevine/women's gossip but I don't lie to make people feel sorry or take pity on me. I'm too honest (this is bad), don't beat among the brushes and beautify words so sales job doesn't suit me.
J's handwritten lies... made herself looked pitiful.